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Postby ravendrow » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:00 pm

so until yesterday i have been using a t-8280 w/ REX-C100 Mod (110v 2 plate version) and an Aoyue 852 A++ for my reballing and reflowing it seemed to work ok... i was still having problems getting even enough heat from the top heater to lift a PS3 RSX but i could do the XBOX 360 GPU just fine. I had another local tech ( a friend of mine ) call me saying he was done and getting out the scene ...he offered me his ACHI IR6000 for $100 so i bought it...it ended up being the 220v model so i had to dig my 3000w step-up transformer out of storage to power the thing (no big Deal) after trying it out i have to say i am disappointed but only by the pre-heater...so my question is would there be a way to cannibalize my T-8280's heating plates and install them into the Achi to improve the pre-heater performance a few more question i kinda need an answer to are

can the plates on the 110v t-8280 also use 220v? (i haven't opened my t-8280 to check the specs on its plates)

would it be better to stick with the achi's stock 6ch controller for the pre-heater or use the c100 from my t-8280 ?

realistically i would just like to be able to combine the 2 systems but i do understand that might not be possible

thanks in advance for any help or advice you guys can give
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby BGA Rework Store » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:07 pm

You should have a 22amp fortek relay inside get a block connector and three plates and your be fine I personally would keep the t8280 as it is great little.preheater esp for prebaking. Think about it you can prebake a board whilst working on another increase your workload and save time plus you can get a sheet of meatal and youve got a multi purpose unit great for reballing and lcd separation
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby ravendrow » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:18 pm

BGA Rework Store wrote:You should have a 22amp fortek relay inside get a block connector and three plates and your be fine I personally would keep the t8280 as it is great little.preheater esp for prebaking. Think about it you can prebake a board whilst working on another increase your workload and save time plus you can get a sheet of meatal and youve got a multi purpose unit great for reballing and lcd separation


thanks for the extremely fast response! is there a particular plate you would recommend?

oh also i was wondering does anyone know where i can find the manual for this thing? the forum link is dead and i need to find out the pinout for the serial connector my friend said the machine didn't come with the connector...i already have a serial to usb just need to know what wire to connect to which pin on the back connector of the machine
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby Deus » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:38 pm

Schematic of my old Achi, has that info:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3730&p=40074#p40074

Depending how you mod it, a 3000w transfomer might be pretty low.
Better to use a deditaced 220v line.
To get some decent performance, think 3x 600w would make a difference.
Add a 450w? top heater and the controllers, fans and light, say 2350 watt.

A 3000w transformer draws 27A current at 110v.
2350w @110v = 21.5A that's a load of 80%.
As even 5000w transformers often get blown by a 3000w rework station....

Yes, you can prebake on the T8280.
But as it is "open" might be less effective and expensive on energy.
An oven would be much better suited for that.
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby ravendrow » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:54 pm

if i got a 4 count of the ACHI PRO SC heating plates would 3 of those be acceptable to use? i see they are 600w each...i have seriously considered wiring a dedicated 220v line for the machine but my better half is worried she is gonna end up raising kids alone if i do lol i try to explain to her that it isn't that hard but she is ever the worrier
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby Deus » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:06 am

Think a Scotle 6xxx uses 3x600w plates giving 1800w preheat.
Can't speak of experience with it, never had one.
1800w should make a difference allready.
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby BGA Rework Store » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:26 am

Correct 3 x 600 w
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby ravendrow » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:39 am

that is why i wanted to cannibalize my t-8280....i was thinking even if the plates in it are rated for 110v i could wire them in series and it would still be ok for 220v right? my T-8280 has 2 x 110v 800w plates for a total of 1600w max that combined with the achi's current 400w 220v top heater plus controllers ,fans and light would put me at just over 2000w...i am not saying it would be bad ass but it would still be a nice improvement over the stock single 800w heater right? plus it would upgrade me to IR top heat over just using my t-8280 and my 852 a++... honestly i wouldn't mind sacrificing the T-8280 if it could improve the achi without me having to spend $100.00 on new plates lol as for pre-baking i was thinking about finding a big toaster oven and doing an arduino mod to it
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Re: Questons about Achi IR6000 Pre-Heater Mod

Postby code0102stinks » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:23 am

Yeah, you can hook two identical 110v plates in series up to 220. Each will get 110 volts hooked that way, but I would leave the 8280 alone
and get the 3x600W plates. 1600W would be a big improvement, yes, but the 8280 preheater is like the bare minimum to handle console
boards. Not enough in my mind. Better to have more power from below and be able to have MB a little higher above the plates for more heat
from radiation vs convection.

$100 is a steal for any of these machines, even a lower model like that. The upper arm support is worth that. PC410 is worth 40-50 bucks used.
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