Opinions on this type of setup

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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby Coleman » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:54 am

WildCard007 wrote:I would like to say thank you to everyone for the support and information you have provided to me. I read the suggestions and I think it would be a much better choice to go with the Scotle IR6000 v4. It sounds like everyone would suggest me going with the Scotle than any other route with the exception of the money limitation I had. Right now I'm expecting to have a $600 budget for this purchase but I would much rather invest more money wisely than to need an upgrade or get confused using equipment that would take a lot more for a newbie to understand. I was looking up the Scotle and saw this option as well. I was planning on getting a temperature controlled soldering station at some point so this would be helpful.

http://www.bgasupplies.com/scotle-ir600 ... ga-bundle/

There are a few questions that I have about this product. If I were to buy this mega bundle, what else would I need in order to get my reballing setup completely ready? Right now I'm planning on working with Xbox 360s and PS3s but laptop GPUs down the line. Why is the weight less for this bundle if it has more items in it than this version.

http://www.bgasupplies.com/scotle-ir6000-v4/

What is a route I can go in order to begin learning more about reballing, reflowing, the equipment needed, and what is needed to pair equipment vs what will not work? I would like to learn more so I can have more specific questions and I would like to have a better understanding of everything. I would like to move out of newb town as soon as possible. Right now I'm new project / new purchase happy and am not taking things as slowly as I may need to but will not go forward until I feel comfortable with what I'm about to do.

Coleman, what would come with the deal you are talking about vs the standard Scotle vs the Scotle mega bundle?

Thank you all again :)


If you get the mega bundle you would need a jig for each type of Xbox/ps3, reballing jig and stencils, Just ignore the weight difference. I had to input a weight and just threw a random number in. It's free shipping so doesn't effect anything.

The bundle I would suggest is this one. http://www.bgasupplies.com/reball-package/ It comes with everything you would need including 2 board supports and I'll toss in a free one of your choice as long as I have it in stock. The only other thing you would need is way to attach solder balls to the BGA. Some people use a their top heater while the majority uses a hot air station.

A few places you can learn about reballing is here.

http://www.youtube.com/user/XJonnyGunsX
http://www.youtube.com/user/ColemanBud
http://www.youtube.com/user/garageincuk

If anyone else has reballing vids sorry I missed yours. Please add it.
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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby WildCard007 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:34 am

Coleman -
For the bundle you suggested, the ps3 pcb support says 40gb and 60gb models but does it include all Phat PS3 models or only those 2?
Which method works better, top heater or hot air rework station for attaching the balls to the bga? If I went with the hot air rework station for that purpose, which one would you suggest? I would also be interested in getting a temperature controlled soldering station later down the line. Do you have a preference for one of those?
I wasn't expecting needing to get this much for it all but I'm glad I have good people guiding me down the path.

I just saw the video from XJonnyGunsX for "BGA Rework Station Profile - The Basics" and that was very helpful for getting a better understanding about profiles and how to treat the equipment.

Thank you
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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby Coleman » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:04 pm

There's 2 different board supports for phat ps3. Some 80gb have their own design.

Most people would probably suggest using a hot air station to attach the balls. Here is 1 I can get that's a 2 in 1 http://bgamods.co.uk/Soldering_Stations ... otle_8586D

If you want to get them separately there's this one http://bgamods.co.uk/Soldering_Stations ... cotle_858D
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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby Flashing360 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:29 pm

I'd definitely opt for the 8586d over the 858d+ :)
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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby WildCard007 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:40 pm

Lol I agree. Coleman, what would be the price in USD for the Scotle 8586D? I tried searching the Canada / USA Site and couldn't find it.
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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby Coleman » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:46 pm

I'll get a price for them tomorrow. Should be around the $120 mark. Not on my site yet due to no stock. I'll be ordering some in real soon.
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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby WildCard007 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:16 am

OK cool thank you. Looks like I'll be able to order the initial setup soon. Hopefully within 2 weeks. The Scotle 8586D might have to wait a bit but it will be worth it. Is there a way you can give me an idea bout how long I would have before you sell out of the IR6000 v4s, the bundle you suggested, and the 8586Ds? How fast can you replenish your stock?
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Re: Opinions on this type of setup

Postby Coleman » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:04 am

It'll be coming straight from the factory so no worries about selling out.
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