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IR6000 wiring

Postby elerepair » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:14 pm

Hey everyone!

just got my hands on Scotle IR 6000

problem is - seems to be wired wrong, as I got the machine used, and not sure if previous owner was messing with the wires.
one thing I noticed was the factory soldered wires to the start/stop buttons was wrong.

the problem now is that as soon as I turn the breaker on the side on - top heater starts heating. it's either wired wrong, or SSR is messed up.
second is that bottom heater does not come on.

I tried to go by the achi wiring, but it's a but different, as it has REX bottom controller. Mine is CH6.

thanks in advance!!
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby joshy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:43 pm

please provide pictures of the controllers and relays wiring. which controllers does the machine have?
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby elerepair » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:03 pm

Controllers are ConTronix CH6 for bottom heater and PC410 for top heater. 2 Fotek SSR's
don't know, what are you going to see from the pics, if the wires are wrapped, but here they go. ;)

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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby code0102stinks » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:32 pm

For starters, they replaced the original type DA SSR for top heat with a type VA. Won't work hooked to a PC410. You need a Fotek SSR 10 DA
for the top heater. Looks like the wiring is hooked up ok, just wrong type SSR. If it still doesn't work, then I can help you see what else they
screwed up.


As far as the bottom heat. Is the PC410 starting a profile? Set you DVOM to high AC volts and check the voltage across term 3 & 4 of the bottom
heat SSR. Should be 230vac or 115vac, whichever voltage machine you have. If voltage is there, then check put your DVOM neg lead on the chassis
probe term 1 & 2 of the bottom SSR. Should be high AC voltage at both term when bottom heat is on. If only one term is hot while you have high
voltage across the input side, SSR is bad.
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby code0102stinks » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:34 pm

You could go more than 10A on the top SSR, but 10 should be fine.
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby elerepair » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:44 pm

by "they" you mean factory ?
I have researched, that there should be an option to switch Output1 mode, and then it would work with variable SSR, but this controller seems to be "stripped" and there is no such option, even after Loc-808

will try tomorrow, I have spare SSR's. And it should be with digital input, right? 3~32v dc if I remember right.
this would actually make sense, that they messed up in factory - but would really be a silly mistake. :D

the previous owner told me he had used the machine before for a few times - I wonder how that worked out, if the top was blasting full power. :D
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby code0102stinks » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:11 am

Doubt the factory put it in there. And the PC410 in a scotle IR6000 would be locked and not able to have analog output.
And none of the analog output options on an unlocked PC410 would work with a type VA SSR. You would need something
like a 4-20ma SSR to work with one of the analog options. The bottom SSR isn't original I believe either because those
manufacturers are too cheap to put a 40A SSR in there because 40A is overkill.
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby elerepair » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:04 pm

replaced both SSR´s, bottom one was fried aswell, didn´t turn on. will see how it goes, after I put it together.
does anyone know where 2 extra wires going to the head are connected?
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby elerepair » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:43 pm

does anyone have default values for the PC410?
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Re: IR6000 wiring

Postby elerepair » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:53 pm

so for now, top and bottom seems to be working properly, except the profile isn´t

I load up the stock profile from scotle examples, for lead free (Computer), start it, and just the bottom comes on. OUT2 is lit, OUT1 flashes some time.
SV and Step does not change. what´s happening ?
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